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Challenge Cup Rugby Betting round 2

Gloucester v Bordeaux-Begles – Challenge Cup Rugby Betting, 1945 pm on Sky

Bordeaux gave us all a nice win last weekend with the London Irish -4 and London Irish ht/ft coming in comfortably. We all got the jump here because the bookies obviously hadn’t looked at the teams, but we had. Like we said, there’s always opportunity in this competition if you do your research. This week it’s slightly different and they’ve done their homework (so far), with the handicap opening up early this morning for this game at -24 in Bet365; they’re into -26 there already, with Ladbrokes as big as -27.

Gloucester name a strong team, with the only really notable missing man being Freddie Burns, with Billy 12trees at 10. Fifty one times capped All Black Jimmy Cowan gets the start here at scrum half and it would be no surprise to see him get a score here against a very weak Bordeaux defence. The Bordeaux side is as weak as it was last weak, but the bench is stronger – with a couple of pack first teamers floating around, and starting ten Lopez.

Gloucester need a bonus point here to keep up with London Irish and we reckon they’ll get it and then some. The weather is good despite a smidgen of rain early in the day, and a little yesterday. Twelvetrees’ sometimes-wayward kicking prevents us from considering the bigger handicaps here, but he should get enough to take us over the line.

Challenge cup betting Main bet

– Take the Gloucester -25, the lowest still available in SKybet. We’d go so far as to say take the -26 if you can’t get -25 but the -27 is to be left alone – don’t settle if you’re only with Ladbrokes and noone else. Despite the semi-decent bench, Bordeaux are already out of this competition with that selection, and the only question for Gloucester is how many they can put on them.

Oddly enough Bwin currently have Gloucester half time/fulltime at 15/13, which is obviously a big mistake (1/20 elsewhere). But if you have an account, lump into it and try to fight them voiding your bet.

Agen v Bath – no main bet. A decent Bath side probably shouldn’t be trusted in Europe to beat a handicap that started at -9 and is now at -12. Agen have a win from their first game so they’d be mad not to put a bit of effort in here. Plus they have one or two first teamers in the starting 15 and bench. The only possible punt we could find was the highest scoring half being the second at biggest 5/6 in Ladbrokes – again, Agen SHOULD try to keep this competitive for a while at least. Weather is good, so it should open up for either side in the second half. Very small stakes.

This will be a rolling thread for the weekend with games being added to the top of this post as and when we can. Of course the main European games are the Heineken cup this weekend, but for those willing to delve deep into team news and squad depth there is always massive opportunity for profit in this competition.

There is a forum thread set up for the challenge cup round 2 here so head on over there with any thoughts for the weekend, and to read those of other members.

More to follow

Challenge Cup Rugby Betting round 1

This will be a rolling thread for the weekend with games being added to te top of this post as and when we can. Of course the main European games are the Heineken cup this weekend, but for those willing to delve deep into team news and squad depth there is always massive opportunity for profit in this competition.

There is a forum thread set up for the challenge cup round 1 here, so head on over there with any thoughts for the weekend.

***Bordeaux-Begles v London Irish – Challenge Cup Rugby Betting, 8pm on French tv- you’ll find a stream somewhere

There was a couple of serious hammerings in the challenge cup on Friday night and we regret not getting involved – we let the Heineken take too much of our attention. We’ve had a look through Saturday’s games and this one stands out for a couple of reasons. bordeaux haven’t named one starter from last week at home to Toulouse where they were mugged at the death. On top of that, there’s only 6 players who were in that squad, and only four of them that came off the bench with less than 20 to go (one of whom got a yellow). Those numbers include all of the bench players aswell by the way. The TOP14 survival hunger-games is their only priority, and they’re not the type of side that has massive depth.

London Irish have named a strong side with many of their premiership stars and lots of international quality. There’s not much more to be said here so i’ll give you the starting 15; (remember most of those lads put over 40 points on Northampton last weekend and look to finally be clicking with IHumph in the hotseat)
15. Steven Shingler; 14. Topsy Ojo*; 13. Jonathan Joseph*; 12. Guy Armitage; 11. Sailosi Tagicakibau*; 10. Ian Humphreys; 9. Tomás O’Leary*; 1. Max Lahiff; 2. David Paice*; 3. Halani Aulika*; 4. Bryn Evans (Captain); 5. Matt Garvey; 6. Ofisa Treviranus*; 7. Jamie Gibson; 8. Chris Hala’ufia*

There’s a little rain due in the afternoon but nothing crazy, and it’ll be dry by 8pm. The best you can get London Irish at is -4 in paddypower and stanjames and we’d recommend taking that as soon as you can today because surely it can’t last? Possibly better; London irish ht/ft is even money in Paddypower if you don’t fancy the handicap. I can’t see how London Irish – a team of professional rugby players – can lose this game. I’ll be gobsmacked if both of the above punts don’t come in for you here, and it’s not often i’ll say that.

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First of all- there’s nothing that appeals on the outright tournament betting. For anyone that doesn’t know, four quarter finalists for this tournament come from those that just miss out on Heineken cup qualification in the final shakeup in March. So we’ll wait until then to look at outrights.

Challenge cup fixtures for this weekend.

11/10/2012 19:30 P1 MontdeMarsan v Gloucester Rugby Eurosport France/Sky Sports
12/10/2012 18:30 P5 Grenoble v I Cavalieri
12/10/2012 19:00 P3 Bayonne v Rugby Mogliano Stad
13/10/2012 13:00 P4 Bucharest Wolves v Bath
13/10/2012 14:00 P2 Rugby Rovigo v Perpignan
13/10/2012 15:00 P2 Bizkaia RT v Worcester
13/10/2012 15:00 P5 London Welsh v StadeFrancais
13/10/2012 18:00 P4 Rugby Calvisano v Agen
13/10/2012 20:00 P1 Bordeaux-Begles v London Irish
13/10/2012 20:10 P3 London Wasps v Dragons Sky

Challenge cup Rugby betting, 19:30 P1 MontdeMarsan v Gloucester Rugby Sky sports

Something to whet our appetite for the weekend tonight – and on first inspection it’s a difficult one to call. Mont-de-Marsan have lost all of their seven games since the start of the TOP14 season, but gained their first point last weekend with a defensive bonus point, losing 30-28 to Stade Francais at home.

The team they put out tonight have just one player in the starting fifteen from the weekend, and one or two from the week before when they lost away 15-6 to Perpignan. The team they have out tonight is young and the pack is quite big. They have a winger at scrumhalf and there’s not much to report other than it’s pretty much an entire second team, with a few able replacements on the bench from the first team.

Glocucester turn up with a stronger side but are still missing a fair few like Monahan, Burns and Morgan, but it’s more than half of their first team and they have a decent bench with Cowan and 12trees and others.

Our initial thoughts on this were to back the Gloucester -8 available in places, but there’s rain currently falling there and the obvious game-plan MDM will employ will be to bash it up and try to keep it tight. Also, last year a couple of the weakened French sides really turned up at home, and this lot tonight will undoubtedly be trying to stake their claim to a place on the first team after such a bad start to the season. A lightweight enough Gloucester team should have a tough enough time against a likely spirited home side, and with the weather and their middling form of late it’s easy to see them getting bogged down in a mire here.

Two bets stand out for small stakes- (we liked Kalimafoni for anytime try but he’s only 3/1 biggest so we’re leaving it)

Gloucester win by 1-12 – biggest in bet365 (13/8 elsewhere). It’s hard to see Gloucester running away with this – they haven’t run away with much in the premiership this season, and the French love their bonus points. Are Gloucester going to be arsed holding them out if they’re pushing for a losing bonus with ten to go? Questionable.

Also for small stakes, the half time Montdemarsan, Full time Gloucester is biggest 13/2 in bet365 and sky bet. Realistically Gloucester shouldn’t have any problem here but remember they’re issing Freddie Burns who really makes them tick, and they could pitch up here expecting a handy run-out. If they are behind at half tie, they have loads of quality to get it back. Worth a small bet this one, and a win could set us up nicely with a big stake to play with on Friday.

Just to tack on here- Tindall anytime try is 9/2 biggest in skybet and williamhill, and we’re on that now too. He was scoring for the barbarians during the summer and he’ll have plenty of ball tonight.

Toulon v Biarritz Rugby betting preview, Challenge cup final, Friday May 17, 2012, 20:00 GMT, Twickenham Stoop.

The hors-d’oevres before the rugby main course on Saturday.

Not half as much attention is paid to this cup as the Heineken, but it is nonetheless a riveting competition.  It is most definitely a useful stepping stone to greatness, and a convenient viewpoint for us punters to get some form on up- and -coming ( and down-and-going!) teams and players. And the fact is, it is silverware, something every team wants. Despite having less prestige that the Heineken, no team (aside from maybe Munster!) will give this title anything less than the respect it deserves (once they’re on the verge of reaching the knock-out stages anyway).

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